And co-Starring Caroline the Fascist Forget, Nazi Enabler
[I start the Recording a little late because the Zoom was dead forever then came live and Elizabeth started talking immediately so I started Recording as soon as I could, this is Me interrupting whatever she started with…]
Answering my question. I’m asking you a direct question. Do you understand the title King and do you understand the title Mr. and why you’re using those titles? Because if you don’t then we have a very serious problem.
I Understand the difference and I’m good.
Thank you..
Perfect okay, I’m just going to start the recording Okay?
Okay..
Recording in progress..
So we’re on the record..
So I’m just going to start this morning just by introducing myself..
My name is Elizabeth Kirby and I’m a member of the social benefits tribunal presiding over today’s hearing..
Today is June 4th, 2026..
This is the hearing of King Sean, House von Dehn versus the administrator from number 2512..
versus the administrator on number 2512-08602, which is taking place today by video conference..
The appellant is present and representing himself and the administrator is present and is represented by Carolyn Forget.
This hearing is private and confidential (unconstitutional, violates the concept of transparency- this is an admission of guilt, hearings are public).
It’s being recorded by the Tribunal..(if one party has the right to do something the other party has equal right to do same, Courts of Equity)
[I let them know]
It’s not private and confidential..
That would be a constitutional violation..
This is being recorded for the public record and for public accountability..
This tribunal has aided and abetted the criminal acts of the administrator on two previous occasions..
And if it happens again, Elizabeth Kirby, is that your name?
Yes, yeah..
You will be personally liable and criminally charged..
Do you understand that?
So I mean, I was gonna raise that as a preliminary issue..
Good, because they didn’t respond..
And if you look at Carolyn Forget’s submissions, you’ll notice that it says she has no intention on providing any response materials..
I can show you that in her submissions if you like..
And I can also show you the fact that the submissions she did provide are 100% redacted!
They have redacted the names of every individual at Ontario Works and at Home for Good so that I can’t know who was violating my trust and discussing the utility subsidy without my knowledge while they were funneling that money into my landlord’s pocket..
That is what they were doing and they lied to me about that benefit for six years!!!
I provided the hydro receipts for this hearing..
Carolyn Forget has nothing to say today, her opportunity to speak to this came seven days prior to today’s hearing, and she presented nothing of value..
There were a number of people who were placed on notice here that have been involved in this..
Kathy Curry, city councilor, telling Ottawa Hydro not to release the money that was owed to me on the account,
overpayments made by Ontario Works against my will. While a utility subsidy was available to me, they were exploiting my basic needs, taking that money from my basic needs, giving the subsidy utility to my landlord, and then had the claim at the landlord tenant board dismissed by colluding with the administrator over there. And you’ve (SBT) been complicit in this as well..
I’ve watched two administrators and you need to let me know right now if you’re going to pretend that you’re not subject to the trustee act of Ontario today right now. Because the trustee Act of Ontario, according to Section 66 of the Trustee Act of Ontario, states very clearly that the applicability of the ACT applies to all trusts whenever expressed and all trustees whenever appointed..
This trust that Ontario Works has on record has been on record since January 19, 2017..
Now if Caroline Forget does not have with her today a copy of the trust instrument, a copy of the trust declaration, a copy of the letter of attorney and a copy of the mandamus for for healthcare that Orsalia Vanksodi accepted and signed for as a commissioner of oaths for Ontario Works..
Now they would like to plead ignorance of those four documents..
That is, spoiliation of government property times four..
Do you have any idea how serious those criminal charges are?
Mr. Sarkik Shah and the House Fund, I’m just going to circle back a little bit..
I’m just going to backtrack a bit because I know you mentioned and it was in the submissions that some of the recordings have been posted publicly..
So I do need to bring my…
You can do whatever you want. This one is going to be public as well..
I invited everybody to come and join because you know what? If you say that it’s not public, you’re violating my constitutional right..
The only person who has the right to any privacy here is me..
And that’s me waiving it right now!
You’re a public servant. You’re being recorded because you’ve been engaged in criminal conduct..
And you’ve been using the privacy of these social benefits tribunal to exploit beneficiaries and cover your crimes.
And if it happens again today, miss, I am taking this straight to the divisional court and I am going to have you personally charged criminally..
Do you understand? A breach of trust, miss, is subject to 14 years in jail according to Canada’s criminal code..
I just told you that they have spoilated four documents!!!
I have the signed copies of those documents from their office and you understand that the trust instrument is the whole of the law regarding any trust obligation, yes or no? Because I’m not asking you for authority, I am the authority of this Court and I am the authority of this Tribunal..
This is a matter before the Superior Court of Justice. You are a branch of the Ministry of the Attorney General and Department of Justice and you are governed by the Ministry of the the Attorney General and the trustee act of Ontario..
And that act requires you, Ms..
, to act in the best interest, not of your colleague and co-conspirator, Caroline Forget and your liars posing as lawyers..
You posted that Jamie Neymarke has been appointed as a adjudicator for the SBT?!
That woman is engaged in fraud against my father in an estate matter..
Did you know that? $3 million worth of insurance fraud..
I have all the documents to prove it..
And you’ve hired her?
What kind of vetting process do you have if you are hiring criminals? And if you are going to sit here right now and not call Caroline Forget out, ask her where those documents are right now?
And if you don’t, you are complicit..
I’m not putting up with this nonsense, Elizabeth..
King Sean, I’m just… I’m asking that you please be respectful and let me speak as well..
I’m asking you questions..
If you’re gonna answer questions, that’s fine..
But if you’re going to gaslight by deliberately ignoring my questions, not answering them, and then going off on your own little story, that’s not how this is gonna go today..
These people were very clearly advised..
You have every single submission on record..
Do you or do you not?
I have every service.
Good..
Then if you understand the rule of law, you understand that these people are in default today..
Caroline Forger and Ontario Works in the city of Ottawa are liable to me for $100 million..
They are also liable to Colleen Lynch for $1 million..
And that’s also for you and Brian Killick The breached her Trust and then they didn’t tell her..
I called her a week later and I asked her, did Ontario Works notify you of the breach of your trust? No? Okay..
Well I got it a week ago, I shared the email with her and she is extremely upset..
And nobody has been held to account..
That is not acceptable..
King Sean, if I may, I’m gonna ask that you let me speak. If I don’t have the opportunity to manage the hearing, then I unfortunately…
I’m gonna give you an opportunity to do that, but you make sure that you manage the hearing!!!
I am trying, and if I don’t have the opportunity to, I’m going to have to convert it to a written hearing..
So I just want you to be aware of it..
Well, there’s nothing else to write..
That would be fine with me because all of the written submissions have been made, their opportunity to make any are gone, and those default judgments are standing..
So you need to award the judgment in $100 million, and we can end this right now..
That would be wonderful..
If your wish is to convert it to paper and have me consider what I have on the record..
There’s nothing to consider..
There’s nothing to consider..
We can go over the documents right now..
I’m not gonna have you gaslight and then go off record so that you can make another criminal decision, aiding and abetting the crimes of the administrator..
These are criminal offenses..
And when I report them to you, you should be taking it very seriously and you should be reporting it to the local police..
and if they don’t take action because they won’t because they’re complicit, this is part of the city of Ottawa’s kickback scheme..
You understand that, right? This was reported in the CBC..
These people are complicit..
Yes.
Okay, they’ve been working with city councilor, Kathy Curry and the local police to cover this up and to try and put me in jail for reporting on it..
They’re trying to do me as much economic harm as they possibly can..
You saw by way of the admissions, Submissions, excuse me..
Okay, that they didn’t cash the check..
That was after almost a year of Cathy Curry telling them not to release it to me..
Where does Cathy Curry gain the right to be talking about my hydro account secretly with Ottawa Hydro? And then telling the representative at Ottawa Hydro to tell me that the decision was coming from Ontario Works?
And when I asked who it was coming from, they made up a name (Renee)
because they didn’t want me to track it back to them!
I do..
But before I do, I do need you to be aware that section 66 of the legislation says all hearings are to be heard in private..
That is a provincial legislation..
And I’ve told you before that this is a Trust issue..
66 of the trustee act..
Let’s go to 67 of the trustee act..
And I’ll tell you what is applicable to you right now..
is 66, 67 and 68..
And 68 states that in no case shall a trustee be prevented from engaging in any act that is a requirement of the trust..
I need to hold you accountable..
You’ve been proven to be engaged in criminal conduct when the cameras are not rolling and people are not looking..
So you are being held to the account of the public here today under my Trust administration..
It gives me the right to record this proceedings and it is superior in jurisdiction to the Courts of Justice Act..
It is the only governing instrument over my Life unless my Acts are otherwise unlawful..
There is nobody being harmed or suffering loss because I’ve recorded these proceedings..
You are being held accountable and your face is 10 shades of red already to show how guilty you are..
You know exactly – that’s why you want to convert this to a written hearing, because you don’t want to honor the facts on this court of record..
No, King Sean, I’m trying to abide by the legislation and the tribunal’s a creature of statute..
Did I just not give you the legislation? What is the Trustee Act of Ontario? Is that an Act of legislation, Elizabeth? Yes or no? Statute Law and that’s the Ontario Works Act. I don’t care what the Ontario Works Act has to say because it’s not the jurisdiction of authority here, the Trustee act of Ontario is. The trustee act of Ontario is the only thing governing the Trust and you are bound by it first. Do you understand?
Yes. Thank you. I don’t want you to be upset.
Well you’re too too late lady! If you don’t know the Trustee Act of Ontario inside out, You are not fit to be sitting in your chair..
Um, King Sean, Miss Forgeet has just raised her hand. I’m going to be, give her an opportunity to speak. Uh, going to-
Well she shouldn’t have any opportunity to speak because her opportunity to speak ended seven days before this hearing, Miss!
Um, at this time the administrator would suggest a paper hearing to ensure that the legislation It was a procedure..
Screw you, Caroline Forget, you are a fascist criminal clown!
I asked for a lawyer to come!
Somebody who’s actually competent to speak for the city of Ottawa..
You are not competent!
You are not a lawyer!
And you don’t know anything about this case!
No..
I’m sick and tired of Caroline Forge coming here as a presenter..
She is no one.
Shut up.
You need to abide by the Trustee Act of Ontario, Fascist Forget!
I think it’s best for both parties, including you, King Sean, that I do..
No, no, Caroline should not even be here and you allowing her here and you allowing her to continue to present redacted submissions shows that you are obstructing and supporting the obstruction of justice..
That’s what you’re doing..
Okay, so you’ve just conceded on a court of record that you have been aiding and abetting the crimes.
Look, I need the money from Ottawa Hydro put in my account today, Miss!!!
No, you’re not..
You are not allowing another two week period?!
I am appealing your decision to a divisional court.
That’s your position on the matter. By all means.
I want to appeal it right now. You have absolutely no right to be doing this. You are gaslighting. I am complaining of criminal trespasses against me and you are taking no action. You are criminally negligent right now. You are committing an act of criminal malfeasance. Do you understand that? There is no issue of jurisdiction..
The trust takes jurisdiction!
You moron!
You are an incompetent clown!
Don’t think he’s been able to..
You are an incompetent clown and you are not going to keep gaslighting this..
I’m not waiting two more weeks..
I’m not waiting two more weeks..
I’m appealing your decision..
You are garbage..
Okay, I just wanna give you the whole thing..
Okay, good. I’m glad you agree and acknowledge that.
You are trying to gaslight a trust! That is a trespass!!!
Okay, okay, okay..
Okay? Fuck you..
Fuck you..
Fuck you..
Fuck you..
Recording stopped.
After re-reading this Post, I thought it was also worth noting here that although I don’t make any apologies for My language, it was not JUST the length of time or the audacity of Elizabeth’s crimes and contempt that caused the f bombs to start dropping, she muted My mic and the audio while her and Caroline continue to chat and I could see enough by lip reading to know she had told Caroline she’ll Give another two weeks to proceed in Writing – a respondent who is in default and stated on Record they do not intend to respond!!! People wonder why I get so furious?! Seriously?
Then of course, they were served with a letter of Demand for the Order to Appeal to Divisional Court. What a fucking cunt, Elizabeth ‘the Fucking Cunt’ Kirby! There’s a shoe that fits Cinderella perfect!
SBT-2512-08602 Notice of Criminal Liability, Demand for Immediate Decision and
Thanks every One!!! I wasn’t paying attention to whether or not any One actually logged in to witness but at least We got a Recording. I will upload the audio version to Spotify sometime later this evening (or weekend, it’s My name day tomorrow and I’m in celebrate-Sean mode).
Love and Blessings!
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